Tuesday, June 13, 2006

by jove?

One comment on this post claims that:
"the Roman god Jupiter... is a form of Japheth, the eldest son of Noah"
I had never heard that before, had you?

6 comments:

Exile from GROGGS said...

You might like to have a look through After the Flood" by Bill Cooper (all available for viewing online), which takes seriously the Table of Nations in Genesis, and looks at pre-Roman history in this light.

Anonymous said...

I heard somewhere it was from "'iu-pater" - "father god" in some proto-indo-european language. "eu" as is "Dieu".

Triton said...

Good guess, Paul. You are correct: that site is where I read it. It seems pretty convincing to me.

Here's what it says about Japheth/Jupiter:

Japheth: The father of all the Indo-European peoples, it would be surprising indeed if his name had gone unremembered among them. As it is, we find that the early Greeks worshipped him as Iapetos, or Iapetus, whom they regarded as the son of heaven and earth, the father of many nations. Likewise, in the ancient Sanskrit vedas of India he is remembered as Pra-Japati, the sun and ostensible Lord of Creation. As time went by, his name was further corrupted, being assimilated into the Roman pantheon as Iupater, and eventually Jupiter (see Appendix 11). None of these names are of Greek, Indian or Latin origin, but are merely corruptions of the original name of Japheth. Both the early Irish Celts and the early Britons traced the descent of their royal houses from Japheth, as did also the early Saxons who corrupted his name to Sceaf,--pr. 'sheaf' or 'shaif' (see chapter 7). (Refs: 1DB 2:802. NBD 599. JA 1.vi.1. P 1:26)

Hope that helps!

Triton said...

Good guess, Paul. You are correct: that site is where I read it. It seems pretty convincing to me.

Here's what it says about Japheth/Jupiter:

Japheth: The father of all the Indo-European peoples, it would be surprising indeed if his name had gone unremembered among them. As it is, we find that the early Greeks worshipped him as Iapetos, or Iapetus, whom they regarded as the son of heaven and earth, the father of many nations. Likewise, in the ancient Sanskrit vedas of India he is remembered as Pra-Japati, the sun and ostensible Lord of Creation. As time went by, his name was further corrupted, being assimilated into the Roman pantheon as Iupater, and eventually Jupiter (see Appendix 11). None of these names are of Greek, Indian or Latin origin, but are merely corruptions of the original name of Japheth. Both the early Irish Celts and the early Britons traced the descent of their royal houses from Japheth, as did also the early Saxons who corrupted his name to Sceaf,--pr. 'sheaf' or 'shaif' (see chapter 7). (Refs: 1DB 2:802. NBD 599. JA 1.vi.1. P 1:26)

Hope that helps!

Triton said...

Sorry about the double post.

sackofcatfood said...

My Latin teacher claimed the etymology was Jove's father (pater).

If you have cause to say it enough the modern term begins to feel like a fairly natural 'shortcut.'