First of all, I want to make sure that, once again, I send my thoughts and prayers, as well as Michelle’s, to the family of Trayvon Martin, and to remark on the incredible grace and dignity with which they’ve dealt with the entire situation. I can only imagine what they’re going through, and it’s remarkable how they’ve handled it.very true.
so have zimmerman's.
...The judge conducted the trial in a professional manner. The prosecution and the defense made their arguments. The juries were properly instructed that in a case such as this reasonable doubt was relevant, and they rendered a verdict. And once the jury has spoken, that's how our system works.also true.
But I did want to just talk a little bit about context and how people have responded to it and how people are feeling.how did i know there was a "but" coming?
You know, when Trayvon Martin was first shot I said that this could have been my son. Another way of saying that is Trayvon Martin could have been me 35 years ago.we knew about the drug use. were you into guns and mma smackdowns too?
And when you think about why, in the African American community at least, there’s a lot of pain around what happened here, I think it’s important to recognize that the African American community is looking at this issue through a set of experiences and a history that doesn’t go away.understandable - but dwelling on that past won't solve anything and usually makes things worse (see also: middle east).
There are very few African American men in this country who haven't had the experience of being followed when they were shopping in a department store. That includes me. There are very few African American men who haven't had the experience of walking across the street and hearing the locks click on the doors of cars. That happens to me -- at least before I was a senator. There are very few African Americans who haven't had the experience of getting on an elevator and a woman clutching her purse nervously and holding her breath until she had a chance to get off. That happens often.if true, please tell your msm, naacp, and black panthers to stop exaggerating it.
And I don't want to exaggerate this...
...but those sets of experiences inform how the African American community interprets what happened one night in Florida. And it’s inescapable for people to bring those experiences to bear.inescapable? so you're saying that community is incapable of progressing out of their bias? if so, perhaps you should stop condemning those "bitter religion and gun clingers" for "bringing their experiences to bear" (not to mention homophobes, klansmen, pedophiles, and those who suffered reverse discrimination under affirmative action.)
The African American community is also knowledgeable that there is a history of racial disparities in the application of our criminal laws -- everything from the death penalty to enforcement of our drug laws. And that ends up having an impact in terms of how people interpret the case.certainly if any racial disparities still exist in our justice system, they should be purged - according to rule of law, not fiat and witch hunt. but again (as you mention later), things are getting better.
and please remember, there are two kinds of disparities. those stemming from inequities in the law should be dealt with through legal channels. but i suggest that much of what is perceived as disparity comes from actual, objectively measurable, differences in who commits the crime to begin with (as admittedly you do allude to that below). since the amount of original crime stems from cultural dysfunctions, it would be best to cure those dysfunctions than "reverse discriminate" in enforcement and prosecution of crime. nobody should "get out of jail free" because of their skin color (and its history) - from manson to madoff to mumia.
Now, this isn't to say that the African American community is naïve about the fact that African American young men are disproportionately involved in the criminal justice system; that they’re disproportionately both victims and perpetrators of violence. It’s not to make excuses for that fact -- although black folks do interpret the reasons for that in a historical context. They understand that some of the violence that takes place in poor black neighborhoods around the country is born out of a very violent past in this country, and that the poverty and dysfunction that we see in those communities can be traced to a very difficult history.actually the whole "holder, sharpton, and matthews, et al" protest industry relies on that naïveté, and demonizes everyone who does not share their delusions.
And so the fact that sometimes that’s unacknowledged adds to the frustration. And the fact that a lot of African American boys are painted with a broad brush and the excuse is given, well, there are these statistics out there that show that African American boys are more violent -- using that as an excuse to then see sons treated differently causes pain.so, which side of the fence are you on? you cite statistics that prove a difference (racist (tm)!) but that they're only an excuse and therefore not valid.
I think the African American community is also not naïve in understanding that, statistically, somebody like Trayvon Martin was statistically more likely to be shot by a peer than he was by somebody else. So folks understand the challenges that exist for African American boys. But they get frustrated, I think, if they feel that there’s no context for it and that context is being denied.
please pick one and stick with it - i know that's difficult within the chicago/beltway machine...
And that all contributes I think to a sense that if a white male teen was involved in the same kind of scenario, that, from top to bottom, both the outcome and the aftermath might have been different.racist (tm)!
Now, the question for me at least, and I think for a lot of folks, is where do we take this? How do we learn some lessons from this and move in a positive direction? I think it’s understandable that there have been demonstrations and vigils and protests, and some of that stuff is just going to have to work its way through, as long as it remains nonviolent. If I see any violence, then I will remind folks that that dishonors what happened to Trayvon Martin and his family. But beyond protests or vigils, the question is, are there some concrete things that we might be able to do.much better.
I know that Eric Holder is reviewing what happened down there, but I think it’s important for people to have some clear expectations here.oh goody! is he going to "fast and furious" some guns into chicago and detroit, or just pardon some more black panther goons this time?
Traditionally, these are issues of state and local government, the criminal code. And law enforcement is traditionally done at the state and local levels, not at the federal levels.speaking of "traditionally"... presidents used to uphold and defend the constitution, but that hasn't stopped you alinskyites yet.
That doesn’t mean, though, that as a nation we can’t do some things that I think would be productive. So let me just give a couple of specifics that I’m still bouncing around with my staff, so we’re not rolling out some five-point plan, but some areas where I think all of us could potentially focus.
Number one, precisely because law enforcement is often determined at the state and local level, I think it would be productive for the Justice Department, governors, mayors to work with law enforcement about training at the state and local levels in order to reduce the kind of mistrust in the system that sometimes currently exists.once someone who actually believes in justice heads that department, that will be a great idea.
so fire holder now.
When I was in Illinois, I passed racial profiling legislation, and it actually did just two simple things. One, it collected data on traffic stops and the race of the person who was stopped. But the other thing was it resourced us training police departments across the state on how to think about potential racial bias and ways to further professionalize what they were doing.you might not want to brag on that "collected data" at the moment, big brother.
And initially, the police departments across the state were resistant, but actually they came to recognize that if it was done in a fair, straightforward way that it would allow them to do their jobs better and communities would have more confidence in them and, in turn, be more helpful in applying the law. And obviously, law enforcement has got a very tough job.ummm, sure.
So that’s one area where I think there are a lot of resources and best practices that could be brought to bear if state and local governments are receptive. And I think a lot of them would be. And let's figure out are there ways for us to push out that kind of training.
Along the same lines, I think it would be useful for us to examine some state and local laws to see if it -- if they are designed in such a way that they may encourage the kinds of altercations and confrontations and tragedies that we saw in the Florida case, rather than diffuse potential altercations.
where there's actual injustice, let's fix it. though that centralized planning approach you're so fond of is rife with injustice.
I know that there's been commentary about the fact that the "stand your ground" laws in Florida were not used as a defense in the case. On the other hand...a.k.a. "but", again.
...if we're sending a message as a society in our communities that someone who is armed potentially has the right to use those firearms even if there's a way for them to exit from a situation, is that really going to be contributing to the kind of peace and security and order that we'd like to see?the kind of peace and security and order that i'd like to see has nothing to do with your nanny-state solution for every single problem.
And for those who resist that idea that we should think about something like these "stand your ground" laws, I'd just ask people to consider, if Trayvon Martin was of age and armed, could he have stood his ground on that sidewalk? And do we actually think that he would have been justified in shooting Mr. Zimmerman who had followed him in a car because he felt threatened? And if the answer to that question is at least ambiguous, then it seems to me that we might want to examine those kinds of laws.the answer is not ambiguous: if zimmerman had waited for martin, jumped out, hurled racist epithets (like "creepy ass cracker"), broken his nose, and repeatedly slammed his head in the concrete, then YES.
Number three -- and this is a long-term project -- we need to spend some time in thinking about how do we bolster and reinforce our African American boys. And this is something that Michelle and I talk a lot about. There are a lot of kids out there who need help who are getting a lot of negative reinforcement. And is there more that we can do to give them the sense that their country cares about them and values them and is willing to invest in them?yes yes yes! (if by "invest" you mean values, morals, and ethics, not some clintonesque midnight basketball nonsense.)
I'm not naïve about the prospects of some grand, new federal program.BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAAHAAHAAHAAHAAHAAHAAHAAHAA!!!!!!!!!
I'm not sure that that’s what we're talking about here. But I do recognize that as President, I've got some convening power, and there are a lot of good programs that are being done across the country on this front. And for us to be able to gather together business leaders and local elected officials and clergy and celebrities and athletes, and figure out how are we doing a better job helping young African American men feel that they're a full part of this society and that they've got pathways and avenues to succeed -- I think that would be a pretty good outcome from what was obviously a tragic situation. And we're going to spend some time working on that and thinking about that.(after gasping for air and wiping away the tears of laughter) ah, whew, much better.
And then, finally, I think it's going to be important for all of us to do some soul-searching.
There has been talk about should we convene a conversation on race.tip one in that conversation: stop screaming "racist" every time the topic is broached.
I haven't seen that be particularly productive when politicians try to organize conversations. They end up being stilted and politicized, and folks are locked into the positions they already have.true. also true of other talking heads besides politicians. (i'm looking at you, sharpton... (not literally))
On the other hand, in families and churches and workplaces, there's the possibility that people are a little bit more honest, and at least you ask yourself your own questions about, am I wringing as much bias out of myself as I can? Am I judging people as much as I can, based on not the color of their skin, but the content of their character? That would, I think, be an appropriate exercise in the wake of this tragedy.a very good idea - i hope you're suggesting all races do this instead of just the honkies?
And let me just leave you with a final thought that, as difficult and challenging as this whole episode has been for a lot of people, I don’t want us to lose sight that things are getting better. Each successive generation seems to be making progress in changing attitudes when it comes to race. It doesn’t mean we’re in a post-racial society. It doesn’t mean that racism is eliminated. But when I talk to Malia and Sasha, and I listen to their friends and I seem them interact, they’re better than we are -- they’re better than we were -- on these issues. And that’s true in every community that I’ve visited all across the country.very nice, a good ending. (provided the "union" you're talking about is america and not the afl-cio or n.w.o.)
And so we have to be vigilant and we have to work on these issues. And those of us in authority should be doing everything we can to encourage the better angels of our nature, as opposed to using these episodes to heighten divisions. But we should also have confidence that kids these days, I think, have more sense than we did back then, and certainly more than our parents did or our grandparents did; and that along this long, difficult journey, we’re becoming a more perfect union -- not a perfect union, but a more perfect union.
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